COUNTERFEIT WHITEFRIARS VASES

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I HAVE NOTICED OVER RECENT MONTHS AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF COUNTERFEIT WHITEFRIARS VASES APPEARING IN EBAYS LISTINGS IN PARTICULAR THE 8 INCH DRUNKEN BRICKLAYER VASE HAS COME IN FOR SOME SPECIAL ATTENTION BY COUNTERFEITERS.  THESE VASES APPEAR IN THE STRANGEST OF COLOURS I.E. COBALT BLUE,  ACID YELLOW, AND AMBER. {WHITEFRIARS NEVER DID THESE COLOURS}  THE ONE FEATURE OF THIS GROWING TREND THAT WORRIES ME MOSTLY IS THE APPARENT INCREASE IN THE LISTINGS OF A MEADOW GREEN COUNTERFIT WHICH LOOKS REMARKABLY SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINALS.  I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO TELL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GLASS CASING AT THE BASE OF THE VASE. IN THESE MODERN COUNTERFEITS WHERE THE COLOUR MEETS THE CLEAR BASE IS ALWAYS MUCH MORE PRONOUNCED .ALSO NOTE THE PATTENATION ON THE MID BRICK IS ALWAYS TO UNIFORM ALSO THE PATTENATION IS TO CLEAN AND SHARP,  IT ALSO LOOKS AS IF THE GREEN IS SLIGHTLY DARKER THAN THE ORIGINALS. IT SEEM SOMEONE HAS MADE SOME BRICKLAYER MOULDS.  THE CONCERN FOR ALL WHITEFRIARS COLLECTORS IS THE EFFECT THIS WILL HAVE ON THE MARKET AND PRICES OF THESE VASES PARTICULARLY THE MEADOW GREEN WHICH WAS SOMEWHAT SCARCE BUT IF THE COUNTERFEITERS CAN CHURN THESE VASES OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS ONE MUST CONSIDER THE INVESTMENT VALUE OF THESE VASES. I ALSO NOTICE THAT MOST OF THESE VASES ARE BEING SOLD FROM THE CORNWALL REGION ALSO THESE SELLERS ARE WISING UP TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BEING REPORTED AND HAVE NOW STARTED TO LIST THESE DODGY ITEMS ON A ONE DAY LISTING BASIS IN THE HOPE THAT THEY CAN CUT AND RUN BEFORE ANY DILIGENT EBAYERS CAN REPORT THE LISTING.  I HOPE THIS REVIEW IS OF SOME HELP TO POTENTIAL BUYERS. I DO NOTE THAT THESE OBVIOUS COUNTERFEITS DO NOT SEEM TO ATTAIN THE VALUE ONE WOULD EXPECT OF AN ORIGINAL. SO IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE TRUE COLLECTORS ARE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM.

 

 PLEASE,SEE PICS 1&2 NOTE THE VASE ON THE RIGHT AS YOU LOOK AT THE PICS IS A WHITEFRIARS,THE VASE ON THE LEFT IS FAKE, THE VASE ON IT"S OWN IN PIC 3 IS FAKE, PLEASE NOTE THE FIRST ROW OF INDENTATIONS ON THE MID BRICK IN PIC 3 ALMOST IN LINE ON THE REAL WHITEFRIARS VASE MUCH MORE STAGGERED.  (PLEASE SEE NEW PICS  OF AMBER FAKE BELOW)

                       PIC 1                                                      PIC 2                                              PIC 3

.            (PLEASE NOTE  THE TOP ROW OF SCALES JUST BEFORE THE NECK ON THE FAKE ONION OR FISH VASE IN LINE ON THE ORIGINAL VASES ONE SCALE IS SET HIGHER BY 10mm)  25-3-09

           PIC 4                                PIC 5                                             PIC 6   (11/8/08 NEW FAKES ON EBAY ALERT)

ADDENDUM 1 PICS 4-5 SEE EXAMPLE OF AMBER FAKE WITH TALCUM POWDER TO IMPROVE PROFILE OF PATTERNATION. THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO IDENTIFY THE FAKES.  IF THE FIRST LINE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE VASE AS YOU LOOK AT IT IS VIRTUALLY IN LINE, THIS IS TESTIMANT TO THE ITEM BEING A FAKE. ALSO WHITEFRIARS NEVER MADE THIS COLOUR.  IF YOU COME ACROSS THIS COLOUR IT IS OBVIOUSLY FAKE ALSO ROYAL BLUE IS AN OBVIOUS FAKE.  SEE PIC 6 NEW FAKES ON EBAY AS OF THE 11/8/08.  THE ONION VASE WOULD BE IMPARTICULARLY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY AS A FAKE. THE HOOP VASE WOULD NEED SCRUTINISATION. I REALLY FEAR FOR THE MEADOW GREEN COLOURWAY. I AM SORRY TO SAY MY ONLY ADVICE WOULD BE TO AVOID THE MEADOW GREEN COLOURWAY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.  THE THREE VASES IN PICTURE 6 HAVE ALSO BEEN SEEN IN RUBY, WHITEFRIARS DID NOT MAKE ANY OF THESE VASES IN RUBY SO THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.  IT IS THE MEADOW GREEN AGAIN THAT IS GOING TO FILTER IN TO WHITEFRIARS LISTINGS AND CAUSE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.

ADDENDUM 2  I NOTE THAT AT LEAST 25% OF WHITEFRIARS LISTINGS ON EBAY ARE ACTUALLY FOR ITEMS THAT BELONG IN OTHER CATEGORIES CERTAINLY NOT WHITEFRIARS. A LARGE AMOUNT OF RAVENHEAD BARK VASES WHICH ARE TOTALLY INFERIOR TO WHITEFRIARS APPEAR IN THE LISTINGS.  THE MAJORITY OF WHICH ARE TAKEN AS WHITEFRIARS BY MISTAKE. ALSO THERE ARE SOME SCANDINAVIAN DESIGNS WHICH ARE REMARKABLY SIMILAR TO WHITEFRIARS. SOME OF THESE DESIGNS WERE MAJOR INFLUENCES ON BAXTER'S WORK I.E. THE WORKS PER LUTKEN FOR HOLMEGAARD AND TAPIO WIRKALA FOR IiTTALA WHO PRODUCED VASES TO RESEMBLE PACK ICE SCULPTURES SEE PIC 2 WHICH WAS A MAJOR INFLUENCE ON TAPIO.  THESE VASES ARE IN SOME CASES JUST AS SOUGHT AFTER AS THE WHITEFRIARS ITEMS THAT THEY ARE BEING MISTAKEN FOR.  WITH REGARDS TO THE FAKES ABOVE IF YOU COME ACROSS A FAKE ON EBAY AN ATTEMPT TO REPORT IT TO EBAY YOU WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE SUCCESS IN HAVING THE ITEM REMOVED BECAUSE EBAY DO NOT CONSIDER THE BUYER OR POTENTIAL BUYERS OPINION TO BE THAT OF A PROFESSIONAL, SO THEREFORE, THEY VIEW IT AS THE BUYERS WORD AGAINST THE SELLERS AND THE SELLING OF THE FAKE IS ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH THE LISTING. PITY THE POOR UNFORTUNATE PERSON WHO UNSUSPECTEDLY PAYS £200 FOR A PIECE OF MODERN GLASS THAT IS PROBABLY WORTH NO MORE THAN £10.  THE ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM IS TO EDUCATE YOURSELF PRIOR TO BEING LULLED INTO PARTING WITH YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY SEE EXAMPLES OF ART GLASS OFTEN MISTAKEN FOR WHITEFRIARS.

       (PIC 1 WEDGWOOD)                  (PIC 2 IiTTALA OF FINLAND)       (PIC 3  RUDA OF SWEDEN)                RUBY FAKES 11/8/08

     

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