SAS Smock - I was refunded for the fake I bought.

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I was sold a smock by an EBAY seller who choses to sell the same items at various prices under four different ID's - Hmmmmmmmmm !! I instigated a claim under the PAYPAL dispute system.

SMOCK WAS EXAMINED AND CONFIRMED AS NON GENUINE KIT, BY EX-BRITISH ARMY QUARTERMASTER SERGEANT. HE SUPPLIED A STATEMENT WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO PAYPAL WHO ACCEPTED IT AS EXPERT  WITNESS STATEMENT.

FULL REFUND GIVEN TO ME BY PAYPAL FOR FAKE SMOCK SOLD ON EBAY.

If any buyer has bought a fake and wants it examined by a FULLY QUALIFIED expert ( already accepted by paypal ) as part of the paypal "goods not as described" dispute - you can contact me and I can put you in touch with him.

There are many sellers offering SAS windproof smocks. Some are fakes. They might be nice copies but are not genuine items. And some are poorly manufactured tat.

At least one seller is selling "genuine" items and the label has a blank space where the Nato Stock Number ( a number allocated to EVERY genuine item of military kit ) should be if it is on the approved supply list for MOD.

One seller is selling SAS smocks under FOUR different seller id's. The cynic in me believes that when he received quite a few negative feedbacks on his first Seller ID he moved onto a second ID. And moved again when he got negative feedback there ! And so on. Anyway, ask yourself why a seller would want to sell identical items under four different seller ID's ? I cannot name and shame here but happy to talk to anyone who is interested !

And NSN numbers are not the classified mystery some would have you believe.  If the NSN numbers were classified why would the number be stamped on every bit of kit for all to see ? Would it not be removed prior to disposal of the smock through surplus shops ?

Are the buttons the correct pattern ? Two types are available - "sewn on" and "slotted or taped". The taped buttons never appeared on genuine issue kit until the 1990's - so if you see a SAS smock which the seller claims to be 1970's pattern but also has taped buttons you may wonder how this could be possible !

Further information - Genuine SAS windproof smocks have only ever been issued in two colours - DPM camoflauge and Desert DPM.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED BY MOD IN OLIVE GREEN OR BLACK. Several companies have copied the pattern and used black or green fabric but these wont be genuine.

When it comes to advice - who should one trust ? The seller who is trying to sell you an item ? Do you trust a seller who is using four different ID's ?

Or do you trust someone who is not selling or buying from you and is just offering information from which they will make no gain whatsoever ?

 

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