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Beatles Autographs 1963
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Like New: An item that looks like it has just been taken out of its shrink wrap. No visible wear, and the item ... Read moreabout the condition


Due to an overwhelming amount of messages about this item, many saying that these are not original and also many saying that they are original and many requesting a buy-it-now price I have decided to amend the listing by drastically reducing the starting price at the level that a Neil Aspinall set would typically sell for. Decide for yourself if these are genuine or not and bid accordingly as all this positive and negative information has been very confusing! Good Luck!


A complete set of 4 Beatles autographs that can be accurately dated to November 1963

I have lived in Woolton for more than 50 years; Mendips on Menlove Avenue is about 15 minutes walk away. My older sister was a big fan of the Beatles and regularly went to the cavern to watch them perform. One afternoon in late 1962 my sister and her friend who was also a fan walked up to 251 Menlove Avenue with a scrap of paper each and a pen with the intention of getting Johns autograph, as they walked down the path and were about to knock, the front door opened and John was standing in the doorway with the rest of the Beatles behind him (they were apparently just on their way out), Joan greeted them and asked if she could have their autographs while offering the pen and scrap of paper to John. John looked at the scrap of paper and said “hang on a minute” and went back into the house and seconds later he returned with 2 promo cards and while Joan and her friend stood there and chatted to them they signed both cards in front of both of them. They chatted for a short while, said their goodbyes and went away happy, clutching a set of autographs each. The autographed promo card contained a photograph of the Beatles standing at the bottom of a set of steps leading up to an aircraft, on the bottom left hand side was written ‘The Beatles’ and on the bottom right hand side it said ‘Star Club Hamburg’.

Fast forwarding 4 decades, my sister considered selling her set of autographs, she was well aware that they were valuable but come to the conclusion that if the autographs had provenance then they would be worth even more, after all why should anyone believe the story of a stranger. Anyhow, she decided to get the autographs authenticated by a ‘world renowned expert’. Curiously, all that the expert needed was a scan of the promo card to make his decision. Unbelievably, the decision came back that only 3 of the signatures were authentic. The card was later sold without the all-important provenance which brings me on to the listing that you are looking at now, this set of autographs was listed at auction when an ‘expert’ contacted the auction house before the sale and claimed that the signatures were not by the Beatles but had been signed by a member of Beatles staff, this caused uncertainty which resulted in the auction house amending the description in the auction catalogue suggesting that they were ‘secretarial signatures’. it is important to note that the words 'secretarial signatures' in this context related to their fan club secretaries who would sign and send out cards and letters. Each day, they received hundreds of letters and autograph requests. By 1964 Beatles signatures were more difficult to obtain, especially after their arrival in the United States. As they toured the country for the next two years, the Beatles had very few opportunities to sign. Many examples from this period were done by Neil Aspinall (first road manager and future head of Apple Records), Mal Evans (equipment and road manager) or PR man Derek Taylor. The demand for Beatles autographs had far exceeded their ability to provide them. This set of autographs pre-dates that period.

What follows is the story of how the autographs in the listing that you are looking at now were obtained: The Beatles played at the Globe Theatre in Stockton-On-Tees on the night of Friday November the 22nd 1963, the previous night they stayed at the nearby Grinkle Park Hotel in Saltburn. The autographs were signed by the Beatles at the request of the the hotel manageress who subsequently passed them on to a 15 year old fan that was staying at Grinkle Park at that time (remember that in 1963 before Beatlemania took hold these autographs would have been considered of little or no value to anyone, with the possible exception of Beatle fans). Because the recipient (the 15 year old fan who was the vendor at this auction 45 years later) did not actually witness the signing and because the hotel manageress who obtained the autographs is now deceased there is now no provenance available. However, considering secretarial signings, why would a member of Beatles staff purchase this postcard that would have been on sale at the reception of the hotel, sign it and then give it to the hotel manageress? It makes no sense at all! Study the signatures before you bid as there is no provenance as explained above, in my mind I am convinced that these are genuine autographs after hearing the story that went with them and comparing them with other signatures of the Beatles, but please, before you bid make up your own mind as I am not offering any returns on this item as I would not like to complete the sale and somewhere in the future along comes another ‘world renowned expert’ to suggest that these are not authentic.

Good luck and happy bidding.

Bids are welcome from Japan and America and will be posted at cost and fully insured.

Bid with confidence (see my feedback profile).

Card Measurement: 14cm x 9cm.

Condition: Perfect.

p.s. please check out the link below, it makes interesting reading. http://beatle.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/beatles-authenticator-at-heart-of-memorabilia-suit/

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