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SUPER NOVEMBER 1967 R&R PX HONG KONG SOLD VIETNAM WAR WESTCLOX 17J SQUARE MOUNT

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Brand: WESTCLOX Movement: M100 SEIKO ARROW/ARROW
Gender: Men's Display: Analog
Style: US VIETNAM MILITARY Model: 1967 SQUARE MOUNT W/OVERSIZE STEM
Band Material: BALLISTIC NYLON BLACK LIMITED WARRANTY: 1 YEAR LIMITED
Age: Vintage (1920-1970) FREE ONLINE APPRAISAL: ALLOW UP TO 4 WEEKS FOR LINK

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THIS OFFER IS FOR THE WESTCLOX SECOND BLACK DIAL IN FRONT OF GSW BOX

8 AWESOME TIMEPIECES COMPLETED MARCH 7, 2014
6 ARE GUARANTEED TO HAVE BEEN  UTILIZED IN
WWII AND/OR KOREAN WAR AND/OR  VIETNAM WAR
CASES RESTORED AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO ORIGINAL
DIAL RESTORE TO EXACT ORIGINAL
MOVEMENTS OVERHAULED
SOME REQUIRING THE PURCHASE OF TWO MOVEMENTS

   WATCH BOX INCLUDED

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I  PURCHASED THIS BABY FROM EBAY TWO WEEKS AGO
I THANK GOD IT WAS NUMBER 8 OF 8
I HAVE TONS OF  PREVIOUS HISTORY
ALREADY WRITTEN UP
BECAUSE I LOVE RESTORING THE WESTCLOX
THERE WAS A 7 JEWEL GOV ISSUE PLASTIC THROW AWAY

32 HOURS
8 WATCHES
8 MOVEMENTS
24 HANDS
8 CASE BACKS
8 CASES
8  CRYSTALS
8 2 HOUR RESEARCHES
8 MOVEMENT OVERHAULS
8 CASE RESTORATIONS
8 2 HOUR WRITE UPS
8 DIALS 8 BANDS
8 STEMS
8 CROWNS
320 PHOTOGRAPHS

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Genuine
Restored To Original Condition
Overhauled & Serviced

NOVEMBER
1967

R&R   PX

HONG KONG
MANUFACTURED

SEIKO 17J SHOCK PROTECTED DRIVEN
WESTCLOX
VIETNAM  MILITARY WATCH

34 MM X 41 MM
W/O CROWN!

WITH

4 SQUARE MOUNT
LONG STEM

SEIKO M101
  ARROW in a  ARROW
17 JEWEL
SHOCK PROTECTED
MANUAL WIND MOVEMENT

NOTE
THE SAME TET OFFENSIVE ERA
USA GOV MILITARY  ISSUE WESTCLOX
A PLASTIC CASED
THROW AWAY
MADE IN FRANCE
[JEANBRUN]
HAD ONLY 7 JEWELS
AND
NO SHOCK DEVICE

WITH

BALLISTIC NYLON
G-18 NATO STYLE
MILITARY STRAP
WITH KEEPERS

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WESTCLOX

Charles Stahlberg and partners formed United Clock Company on December 5, 1885 in Peru, Illinois with the goal of manufacturing clocks based on a patented technological innovation by Stahlberg which used lead with brass bushings for plates.

In 1887, the company reorganized as "Western Clock Company" and then went bankrupt and was reorganized by F. W. Matthiessen in 1888 as the "Western Clock Manufacturing Company."

In 1908, the company was granted a patent for the "Big Ben" alarm clock movement. This movement had a "bell-back" design, which meant the bell mechanism was integral to the clock's case.

Western Manufacturing Clock Company introduced the Big Ben in 1909.

In 1910,  the Big Ben became the first alarm clock advertised nationally, with ads placed in the Saturday Evening Post.

In 1910, The modern trademark of the company, "Westclox," first appeared on the backs of Big Ben alarm clocks from 1910 to 1917. The name appeared on Big Ben dials as early in 1911.Western Manufacturing Clock Company  was shortened to  "Western Clock Company" in 1912. The trademark WESTCLOX was officially registered by the company on January 18, 1916. In 1919, Western Clock Co., Ltd., was incorporated. In 1931, WESTCLOX merged with Seth Thomas Clock Company.Both companies became a division of General Time Corporation. Westclox became known as "Westclox Division of General Time Corporation" in 1936..

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 US GOV ISSUED
1968 VIETNAM WAR
SINGLE PLASTIC CASE
WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCH
MIL-W-46374A
BENRUS WON THE INITIAL 1963 CONTRACT FOR 10,000 UNITS FOR MARINE CORP
BENRUS SUBMITTED A SINGLE CASE DESIGN BY COPYING THE WYLER WATCH DESIGN OF 1928

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NOTE THE MILITARY ISSUE  DIAL
WESTCLOX
US GOV ISSUE 1968/69
MIL-W-46374A
DIAL

CHECK OUT THE STORY GOOGLE:
GOLDSMITHWORKS BENRUS VS BULOVA VIETNAM CONTRACT PROTEST

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1959 Westclox
OWNED BY SF MEMBER

PX R&R 1970-1971
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

PX R&R 1965-1967
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

PX R&R 1967 1969
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

WESTCLOX SOLD AND GAVE AWAY   [MOSTLY GAVE AWAY] A FEW HUNDRED WESTCLOX WATCHES TO US GREEN BERET [SPECIAL FORCES] ADVISERS IN VIETNAM IN THE LATE 1950'S TO EARLY 1960'S. THE DESIGN FEATURES OF THESE TIME PIECES WAS BORROWED FROM THE FIRST CONTRACT WINNER, BENRUS.

WITH JAPANESE SEIKO MANUAL MOVEMENTS, THEIR STAMINA IN THE FIELD FOUND IT'S WAY  INTO A SERIES OF MILITARY WATCHES THAT PROVED TO BE RUGGED AND EXCEPTIONAL.

THIRDLY, THEY LASTED MORE THAN TWO YEARS  IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM WITHOUT SERVICE, AND ALL IN ALL, THIS WAS  THE MAIN REQUIREMENT OF THE US MILITARY CONTRACT,. LAST TWO YEARS AND THE DIAL SHOULD BE LIKE THIS...AND THE CONTRACT SPELLED IT OUT.

WESTCLOX NOT ONLY GAINED A  US MILITARY CONTRACT FOR THOUSANDS OF US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES FOR TROOPS IN VIETNAM, BUT THEY GAINED A SLICE OF R&R PX/BX SPACE TO SELL A BETTER VERSION, ONE WITH  VARIETY OF SOLID SHOCK PROTECTED, 17 JEWEL VIETNAM ERA WESTCLOCKS..

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FACTS ONE 0 ONE

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE YEARS 1961-1965 WHEN THE FIRST US COMBAT FORCES IN VIETNAM WERE MAINLY GREEN BERETS - I.E.:  SPECIAL FORCES

FRENCH INDOCHINA Vs VIETNAM:

Before WWII , the French colonized Indochina.[Cambodia Laos Vietnam]. After the outbreak of WWII, the Japanese invaded Indochina but allowed the French to continue to Govern. In 1945 the Japanese, fearing US  invasion, rounded up the French and the French "puppet government " and locked them up in what amounted to concentration camps. During this time, with US assistance, the Vietnamese organized guerilla units to harass the Japanese.

At the conclusion of WWII -1945- the French moved back into Vietnam. which led to the French Indochina War --and eventually the halving of Vietnam into South Vietnam [Republic of Chochinchina],   under French control, and North Vietnam, eventually under Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh Nationalists-- communists.

With the defeat of China's Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist Army in 1949 by the Chinese Communists, the US stepped up support for opposition groups through out Asia.  When war breaks out in Korea in 1950, with China jumping in, the US stepped up support for the French in Vietnam fearing a domino effect.

When both China and Russia recognized Ho Chi Minh's Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Viet Minh Nationalists defeated the French in 1954, the US with UN Support, assisted in the establishment of a government in South Vietnam. By 1959, US military support by way of cash, arms and advisors were stepped up. In fact, the first US casualties in Vietnam occurred in 1959 when two U.S. military advisers, Maj. Dale Buis and Sgt. Chester Ovnand, were killed [AN EXPLOSION IN A MOVIE THEATER] by Viet Minh guerrillas at Bien Hoa, South Vietnam.

( RE-SEARCH: DIEN BEN PHU. A HISTORIC INCREDIBLE STORY OF THE FRENCH SPECIAL FORCES & THE COMING OF AGE OF GENERAL GIAP AND THE VIET MINH )

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JAPANESE 2 VERSIONS

SWISS WITH 4 SQUARE

FRENCH 4 VERSIONS

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BECAUSE THE CONTRACT STATED TWO YEARS OPERATING TIME, WESTCLOX CUT ALL FRILLS, IMPROVEMENTS, SELLING FEATURES AND JEWELS FROM THE PRODUCTION MODELS. THUS THE ORIGINAL WESTCLOX SWISS MOVEMENTS WERE CAST ASIDE AND SERIES OF FRENCH JEAMBRUN AND A JAPANESE SEIKO MOVEMENTS WERE SUBSTITUTED

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ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT. THEY ALL ARE WHEN COMPLETED. I FIRST TREATED THE WESTCLOX AS A CHEAP WATCH; I MEAN WHO WOULD WEAR A HONG KONG WESTCLOX. IN FACT, BEFORE WESTCLOX BECAME ONE WITH BENRUS AND OTHER WELL KNOWN BRANDS PARTICIPATING IN THE PRODUCTION OF THE US GOV ISSUE MIL-W-46374A ,WHO  WOULD NEVER HAVE THOUGH OF WEARING A WESTCLOX!

THIS BEAUTY IS WITH OUT DOUBT ONE OF THE ORIGINALS MADE JUST BEFORE THE TET OFFENSIVE! IT WAS SOLD IN HONG KONG IN NOVEMBER '67 TO A  US SOLDER ON R&R DURING THE VIETNAM WAR. IT IS SPECTACULAR, TOTALLY REBUILT WITHOUT TAKING ANYTHING FROM IT'S ORIGINAL BEING, LOOK OR ALTERING THIS TIMEPIECE.

MOVEMENT OVERHAUL. DIAL RESTORE AND RE-ILLUMINATION, LIGHT CLEAN AND BUFF OF CASE, ORIGINAL CRYSTAL, RED SWEEPS  REPAINTED

THIS WONDERFUL MILITARY WESTCLOX DATES  TO NOVEMBER 1967, TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE TET OFFENSIVE.  CONDITION IS EXCELLENT TO FINE. THE CASE IS CHROME PLATED HER SEIKO 101 DOUBLE ARROW 17 JEWEL SHOCK PROTECTED MOVEMENT WAS MADE BY SEIKO  AS THE M101 17 JEWEL SHOCK ABSORBER MANUAL WIND..

......AN IMPORTANT -NOTE: THE [NEAR] IDENTICAL MOVEMENT IN THE 2 YEAR PLASTIC WESTCLOX THROW AWAY WAS 7 JEWELS!. THE DATE IS SURELY FACTUAL IN EVERY REGARD. NOT UNTIL THE THIRD SERIES DID WESTCLOX USE JAPANESE MECHANICAL MOVEMENTS

 

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RADIUM ORIG HANDS

RADIUM US HANDS

TRITIUM US HANDS

1958 - 1964

SECONDS WOULD RECEIVE RED ARROW 1969

RADIUM OR TRITIUM ,  MAKER OF MOVEMENT,  AS WELL AS THE STYLE AND SET UP OF YOUR WESTCLOX BECOMES THE MEANS OF DATING YOUR FIND.

IT IS NOT SO MUCH AS "FROM WHEN", LIKE   WHEN A PARTICULAR COMPONENT WAS MADE.. AS IN THE MANUFACTURERS DATE WHEN SEIKO MADE THE FIRST OR LAST MOVEMENT ,  BECAUSE MOVEMENTS WERE MADE FOR THE WESTCLOX AND NOT VERSA.

IT IS A COMBINATION OF STYLES AND COMPONENTS BEING THE KEY.

AN ARROW SECOND HAND? TRY 1969.  WHITE HANDS?   "US ISSUE VIETNAM MILITARY WATCH STYLE" , BLACK STEEL HANDS, SWISS, JAPANESE OR FRENCH MOVEMENT- RADIUM OR TRITIUM - STEEL - PLASTIC - CHROME PLATED CASE [CHROME WENT TO STEEL IN 1964/65] -   SIGNED DIAL - SIGNED AND JEWEL COUNT DIAL - CLEAR DIAL., 4 SQUARE MOVEMENT MOUNT W.LONG STEM?

DATING BECOMES A GROUP OF ITEMS, FEATURES, HAND STYLE, DIAL, CASE, MOVEMENT MANUFACTURER. .

ONE OF THE CLEAR SIGNS OF AGE IS THE ILLUMINATION
RADIUM WAS UTILIZED ON THE MILITARY VERSIONS FROM 1959 TO 19 67.
AFTER THAT, THE
* US GOV REQUIRED TRITIUM NOT RADIUM. SO
RATHER THAN OFFER RADIUM PX/R&R WATCHES WITH RADIUM. YOU
WILL FIND THAT WESTCLOX AFTER 1967 USED TRITIUM

VERSIONS THAT FOLLOWED THE ORIGINAL WESTCLOX MILITARY

M101 26D 7J 1968 MIL VERSION
D407 7J 1968 MIL VERSION
A 201 17J VERSION
M101 26D 17J 1968 MIL VERSION
M102 26D 21J 1968 MIL VERSION

* THIS IS NOT STONE, RATHER A MARBLE. WE ARE ASSUMING DATES OF RADIUM RADIATION  OR TRITIUM BY CONTRACTS. ATUAL PDF OF THE US MILITARY CONTRACT OR SPECIFICATIONS.SO,IT MAY VARY ACCORDING TO CONTRACTS.

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MILITARY WATCHES

IS THE PX OR STORE BOUGHT WESTCLOX
FROM NOVEMBER 1967 A MILITARY WATCH?

SEVERAL YEARS WENT INTO REVERSING THE MYTH THAT WATCHES MADE FOR PRIVATE SALE TO MILITARY PERSONAL, ADVERTISED TO MILITARY PERSONAL, AND/OR DESIGNED FOR MILITARY USE WERE NOT "MILITARY WATCHES."

OUR CLAIMS OVER THE DECADES AND THE RESULTING FACTS, HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT THERE  WERE/IS/ARE  WATCHES THAT GOVERNMENTS CONTRACTED FOR AND ISSUED,   AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT WERE THE SAME,  OR  BETTER ,THAT WERE   DIRECTLY MANUFACTURED, AGAIN, BETTER THAN THE GOV ISSUE, AND ADVIRTISED AND SOLD DIRECTLY TO  MILITARY PERSONAL IN STORES, THE US MILITARY PX/BX SYSTEM, AND R&R LOCATIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE..

VINTAGE ADDS  POSTED ON OUR 9 WEBSITES SHOWING THE ABOVE TO BE FACT.

INCLUDING PICTURES, ADDS AND WRITING THAT ARE CONTRARY TO THE AGED POPULAR BELIEF THAT MORE MILITARY TRENCH WATCHES WERE SOLD DIRECTLY TO SOLDIERS IN WW I THAN WERE EVER  ISSUED BY ALL COUNTRIES MILITARY'S INVOLVED PUT TOGETHER DURING THAT WAR..

WE NOW KNOW AS FACT THAT THAT HATTORI - SEIKOSHA USED RADIUM FOR   ILLUMINATED POCKET WATCHES, POCKET  CHRONOGRAPHS,TIMERS AND WRIST WATCHES AND THAT FACT COVERS TE TIME FROM AT LEAST 1912, THE JAPANESE USED ACTUAL SWISS AND AMERICAN   MOVEMENTS, THEY MADE EXACT COPIES OF SWISS AND AMERICAN MOVEMENTS, AND THEY   RE STAMPED SWISS AND AMERICAN MOVEMENTS INTO SEIKOSHA MOVEMENTS.

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SORR FOR BLUR I AM TOO EXHAUSTED TO RE-SHOOT

THE WESTCLOX AND THE ADVISER:

THE FIRST US SPECIAL FORCES "AD VISORS"    IN VIETNAM WERE SENT FROM BASES IN THE US AND OKINAWA. THEIR JOB WAS TO ADVISE THE FRENCH AND THEN THOSE WHO WOULD SOON BECOME THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE. FOR AS TIME WENT BY THE FRENCH WOULD LOSE IT ALL ON A HISTORICALLY DISASTROUS  GAMBLE...

{GOV PERSPECTIVES WERE MAKING ROUNDS, ALL KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO OCCUR,  BUT NO CONTRACTS ARE ACTUALLY ISSUED YET]

THIS WAS TO BE A "WELL THOUGHT OUT  BY THE FRENCH AND AMERICAN" PLAN. 

NOW KNOWN AS THE SIEGE OF DIEN BIEN PHU, IT HAS BECOME A LESSON TAUGHT THEN FORGOTTEN....

.I DO NOT SUPPOSE YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT VIETNAM AND IT'S "WARS"  WITHOUT READING THE BELOW BOOK! IT IS A MUST ... ONCE READ YOU WILL WONDER  IF ANYBODY IN THE  US MILITARY COMMAND HAD EVER READ IT? THE IRONY IS THAT  IT'S AUTHOR WOULD PERISH WITH A PLATOON OF US TROOPS WHILE GATHERING WHAT MUST HAVE BEEN THE VERY SAME KNOWLEDGE HE HAD ALREADY WRITTEN OF... A TEMPEST IN A STORM OF AMBUSH, WE LOST A TRUE HERO AND A MAN NOT AFRAID TO SAY HOW IT WAS IS AND OUGHT TO BE WITHOUT SEEMING AS IF HE WAS ANTI-WAR. YOU WILL SEE, FEEL, AND EVEN CRY WITHIN YOUR HEART AT THE VALOR OF THE TROOPS AND THE MISERY WROUGHT BY THE TEN FOLD MISTAKES MADE BY THOSE WHO HELD THE KEYS...


"READ A STREET WITHOUT JOY"  AMAZON HAS IT AT
11.00! THEN READ OUR  HISTORY WRITTEN UP BY

CLICKING HERE.

GOOGLE:  "GOLDSMITHWORKS DIEN BIEN PHU"
OR CLICK HERE

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THESE ARE DIRECT SALES BELOW
THE US CNTRACTHAD THESAME STYLE FOR EVERYTHING YOU SEE
PLATIC OR METAL CASES BUT DIAL AND HANDS ONLY ONE STYLE

THOUGH IN TERRIBLE CONDITION, VERY LITTLE PERMANENT DAMAGE WAS SUFFERED BY THIS WESTCLOX. IT WAS PURCHASED ON EBAY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. IT LOOKS GREAT.  THERE MAY BE SOME BLACK BUFFING ROUGH COMPOUND THAT WE NEVER SEE UNTIL WE TAKE THESE MAGNIFIED PICS --IT WAS CLEANED OFF. AGAIN. AN IMPORTANT NOTE IS THE HANDS --NOTE THE FIRST WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCHES DID NOT HAVE THE MID SIXTIES US CONTRACT HANDS -- THE WHITE ONES -- NOR THE LATE 1969 RED AIRPLANE STYLE SWEEP SECOND HAND-- ADDED TO INCREASE SALES.

THE FIRST WESTCLOX DIRECT SALE MILITARY WATCH HAD THE FAMILIAR BLACK STEEL WINDOWED MILITARY HANDS AND A RED SWEEPS WITH OUT THE "ARROW" TIP.  THE TIP OF THE SWEEP IS BENT SLIGHTLY AND COATED WITH *** RADIUM. LIME THE HANDS AND MARKERS AND NUMBER 12

*** RADIUM PROFESSIONALLY REMOVED AND AF SUPERLUMINOVA , A PHOSPHORUS AND ZINC PIGMENT WAS UTILIZED AS A LIVE REPLACEMENT SO IT GLOWS AGAIN WHEN CHARGED BY LIGHT--NOTE: RADIUM GLOWED 24/7 BUT WAS RADIOACTIVE AND CAUSED CANCER IN THOSE WHOM WORKED WITH IT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. ROCK WROTE SEVERAL ARTICLES YOU CAN GOOGLE.

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SOON,  THE ROLE OF AMERICA AND HER SPECIAL FORCES [NOT TITLED SF FORCES AS SUCH YET] WAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. RATHER THAN ADVISING, OUR SPECIAL OPERATION FORCES BECAME RECRUITERS AND HANDS ON LEADERS WHOM TRAINED THEIR "STUDENTS" THROUGH ACTUAL OPERATIONS. THESE TEAMS  BECAME THE HEADS OF VARIOUS  VIETNAMESE COUNTER-GUERRILLA TEAMS OR UNITS. IT IS UNKNOWN HOW MANY ADVISERS WERE CAPTURED, TORTURED AND MURDERED. OR IF ANY  EVER CAME BACK. IT REMAINS SHADOWED AND NO ONE HAS EVER..TAT I AM AWARE OF-- OFFERED CLEAR CUT FACTS FICTIONS TRUTH --DIFFERENT FROM FACT -- OR TALES.

IN FACT, FROM 1959-1965, THE 1ST SPECIAL FORCES GROUP  TRAINED VIETNAMESE SOLDIERS AT THE COMMANDO TRAINING CENTER IN NHA TRANG.  IN 1961 THE US EXPANDED THEIR ROLE, THIS TIME IN LAOS. MTTs OR " MOBILE TRAINING TEAMS".  WOULD BECOME THE FIRST US TROOPS COMMITTED TO "A VIETNAM WAR".

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In 1961, it was estimated that twenty-nine tribes with nearly 200,000 peoples of different cultural characteristic and linguistic patterns lived in villages within the borders of South Vietnam.

The first "TRIBE"  to be approached to participate in the CIDG program were the Rhade. The Rhade, numbering around 100,000,  were the most influential and strategically located of the Montagnard. tribes in the highlands of Vietnam. Though the largest concentration of Rhade were centered around the village of Ban Me Thuot in Darlac Province, they also had villages in  Quang Due, Phu Yen, and Khanh Hoa Provinces.

By April of 1962, a twelve-man U.S. Special Forces A detachment , with the assistance of the U.S. & Vietnamese Special Forces,  incorporated forty Rhade villages   into the CIDG ( Civilian Irregular Defense Group ) program.gh strike force troops, they switched from training to military operations against the Viet Cong..

By June of 1963, the U.S. Special Forces had trained  close to 11,000 strike force and 40,000 hamlet militia from over 800 villages in border surveillance and mountain scout programs, which included ambushes, reconnaissance patrols, and combat patrols.   With enou

By 1964, the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne), 1st Special Forces, with an authorized strength of 1,297, expanded their organization to face the new mission head on -- to seek out and destroy the Viet Cong. This direct confrontation required a change of troop commitment from a 6 month temporary deployment to a one-year permanent change of station.

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Before the massive commitment of  U.S. conventional forces to South Vietnam in 1965/66, the U.S. Special Forces conducted counterinsurgency programs to destroy the Viet Cong, create secure environments and assist in establishing governmental control over the population--which included enlisting the Vietnam villagers active support of government's programs.

By 1965 full deployment was completed with the main operational base headquartered at Nha Trang, and operational units deployed throughout South Vietnam to 270 established and manned camps and  locations. From these locations, the forces of the civilian irregular defense groups, including the Montagnard., as well as the regular units of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Vietnam were trained and led.

Though the 5th Special Forces Group Airborne was one of the smallest units during the entire Vietnam War,it's soldiers were among the highest decorated -- which include seventeen Medal   Medals of Honor,-- and gathered twenty campaign streamers to their Colors.

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U.S. SPECIAL FORCES & CIDG IN SOUTH VIETNAM:
( Civilian Irregular Defense Group )

In April of 1960, the 5th Special Forces Group, 1st Special Forces WWII Airborne was reconstituted.

The 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) was officially activated in September of 1961 at Fort Brag, North Carolina, &, With the support of President Kennedy, RECEIVED PERMISSION TO WEAR THE GREEN BERET....

By 1962, elements of the 5th Special Forces Group began serving 6 month temporary tours of duty in Vietnam with a mission to advise and train the ARVN & ARVN SP -Vietnamese Special Forces, assist in building relationships with villagers, building schools,  infirmaries,  providing medical treatment, and creating Civilian Irregular Defense Groups in the villages and hamlets to combat the Viet Cong

[Viet Cong = guerrilla fighters in South Vietnam supported and directed by the North Vietnamese / "Viet Minh"- Viet Minh = Vietnam Independence League].

(To better understand what the mission was in 1962, Rent that famous 1968 movie " Green Beret "  starring John Wayne with its hit Green Beret soundtrack).

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CLICK FOR THE BATTLE of Ia Drang

READ BEFORE YOU INVEST. KNOW WHY ROCK PUTS IN THE TIME
IT IS THE HISTORY
KNOW IT BEFORE YOU WEAR IT

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While Vietnamese Villagers were recruited into CIDG's, the Special Forces began to recruit the largest minority group in Vietnam: the Montagnard.

(To better understand rent  the 1979 movie "Apocalypse Now" Directed by Francis Ford Coppola. With Marlon Brando, Martin Sheen & Robert Duvall.

The Montagnard. was not an individual TRIBE or SINGLE peoples, rather, it was a term loosely applied to over 100 separate tribes constituting up to one million indigenous primitive mountain people scattered throughout Indochina. They lived in a tribal society that centered their livelihood and way of life on the village and slash-and-burn agriculture; setting them apart from the Vietnamese who inhabited the lowlands.

Though there were unique differences amongst the Montagnard. peoples and villages,    the Montagnard. as a whole had an ingrained hatred for the Vietnamese and an a historical desire to be independent and thus, they were more than likely candidates for the US Special Forces.

During the French Indochina War, both sides, the French, and the Viet Minh, worked to win the Montagnard. to their side because they occupied territory of strategic value to what had initially become an insurgency

[(French Indochina: Cambodia Laos Vietnam)- but the term Indochina originally included all areas that were influenced by Indian & Chinese Influence. I.E.:    Cambodia Laos Vietnam Peninsular Malaysia Myanmar (Burma)  Singapore & Thailand (Siam)]

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MIXING AF LUMINOVA

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A HEAP OF HANDS
32 TO BE EXACT

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NOTE THE LONGER STEM
TO FIT THE BRASS SQUARE

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WELL, AS I HAVE STATED FOR YEARS. MOST WATCHES MANUFACTURED FOR DIRECT SALE TO SOLDIERS DURING WWI,  WWII, KOREA AND.... YES, THAT IS CORRECT, VIETNAM, WERE CONSTRUCTED BETTER THAN THE BETTER THE GOVERNMENT ISSUE!

THIS BEAUTY HAS A 17 JEWEL M101 WHICH IS 10 JEWELS MORE THAN THE OFFICIAL SINGLE CASE PLASTIC THROWAWAY WESTCLOX MILITARY ISSUED.

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BEFORE OVERHAUL
NOTE THE BRASS SQUARE
THE LONGER STEM
THIS DESIGN WAS INVENTED BY
OMEGA DURING WWII
DESIGNED TO PROTECT MOVEMENT FROM STEM LEAKAGE.
WE JUST COMPLETED ONE AND IT WAS INVESTED IN LAST WEEK

THE ONE BELOW WE OFFERED ON EBAY A FEW YEARS AGO

WWII  OMEGA 4 SQUARE WWII MILITARY WATCH 2009

NEW RESTORE INVESTED IN JAN 2014

GOOGLE
GOLDSMITHWORKS OMEGA WWII SQUARE STEM MILITARY

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LINK:
LARGE CASE WITH SQUARE RETAINER WAS UTILIZED IN MILITARY WATCHES TO REDUCE MOISTURE CREEP CLICK THIS LINK TO READ ABOUT THE 4 SQUARE WWII OMEGA

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M 101
ARROW IN ARROW
17 JEWELS

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WITH YOUR INVESTMENT YOU RECEIVE:


FREE A ONE YEAR GSW LIMITED WARRANTY. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM 11 MONTHS FROM WHEN YOU RECEIVE YOUR TIME PIECE WE STAND BEHIND IT!

490.00 PROFESSIONAL INSURANCE **APPRAISAL . THIS IS NOT A JOKE, COST OF TWO WATCHES THE RESTORE THE OVERHAUL THE SERVICING THE WARRANTY THE VERY APPRAISAL ALL COST DOLLARS. APPRAISAL IS 65 TO 95 USD, PLEASE ALLOW 6 WEEKS FOR LINK. APPRAISALS ARE STORED ON A GSW DEDICATED SERVER APPRAISAL WEBSITE WHERE YOU MAY DOWN-LOAD, COPY-TO OR FORWARD TO YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY OR JEWELERS MUTUAL ONLINE 24/7


PLEASE WRITE OR CALL 800 438 6894 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS!!

UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE all watches offered by GSW have been SERVICED. Some required REPAIR AND RESTORATION! Normal Servicing of Mechanical Watches by an EXPERT PROFESSIONAL will run between $180.00 to 580.00, depending on the complication of the movement and that is WITHOUT parts that may be required. SERVICING means DISASSEMBLING THE ENTIRE WATCH AND MOVEMENT, CLEANING SAME, OILING, LUBING AND REASSEMBLING, timing and Sealing. RESTORATION is a separate service from SERVICING and may include CRYSTAL, DIAL, HANDS, CASE, LUGS and BAND. So, WHEN YOU VIEW VINTAGE AND CLASSIC WATCHES OFFERED BY OTHER VENDORS/DEALERS, the question is: WAS THE WATCH SERVICED?


All watches, from mechanical to quartz devices, require periodic cleaning and inspection. GSW provides both cleaning and repair services with our main specialty that of restoring and repairing classic & vintage watches. GSW has established parts accounts with the oldest watch parts houses in the world as well as a network of watch dealers and repair centers around the world. GSW also provides dial restoration services. In addition to servicing new, vintage & classic watches, we also service high grade wristwatches. Think of your watch as you would a fine automobile, it is worth maintaining as it will increase your pleasure of ownership and also enhance the resale or trade-in value. If you plan on passing your watch on to the next generation, skilled periodic maintenance will be greatly appreciated in the future.

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