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Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact by Vine Deloria Jr. (Paperback, 1997)

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Vine Deloria, Jr., leading Native American scholar and author of the best-selling God Is Red, addresses the conflict between mainstream scientific theory about our world and the ancestral worldview of Native Americans. Claiming that science has created a largely fictional scenario for American Indians in prehistoric North America, Deloria offers an alternative view of the continent's history as seen through the eyes and memories of Native Americans. Further, he warns future generations of scientists not to repeat the ethnocentric omissions and fallacies of the past by dismissing Native oral tradition as mere legends.

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288 Pages
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Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact
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1997
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Textbook
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Vine Deloria Jr.
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Paperback

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by hollia004 Apr, 2023
A well written and entertaining book which makes some good points but is flawed in its reasoning and recommendations.
This is a well written and enthusiastic book by a well-known Red- Indian rights backing academic. Professor Deloria sets out the errors, failures and prejudices of Western science and proposes that the oral traditions of American Indians offer a better and safer route to understanding of the world, and in particular American prehistory. Professor Deloria has a lot of fun writing this book, as he admits himself. However, the book is also self-indulgent as a result. Deloria enjoys the frequent revisions and contradictions of “Western Science” , especially with respect to the origin of the pre-Columbian occupants of the Americas. He also points to the bias (and in some cases unpleasant racism) that has often underpinned supposedly objective scientific fact. So far so good. But then I feel that Deloria’s ideas fall apart; he wants to replace something which is less objective that it says on the tin, with something which is not objective at all! Deloria lambasts the arrogance of Western dismissal of non-Western cultures, having seemingly forgotten that he happily lampooned Western beliefs in his introduction to the book and has previously written a stinging critique of Biblical creationism. In fact, Deloria reminds me of Recent Creationist debater Ken Ham- who also has a good line in showing the failures of science using witty anecdotes and initially persuasive argument (which often collapses on deeper thought). Deloria fails to explain how, if the scientific method is so flawed, it has given rise to all modern conveniences, transport, energy sources etc whereas traditional Red Indian beliefs have given us er.. dreamcatchers! For aeroplanes to fly and computers to work, science must contain a deep alignment with reality. Folk with alternative but “equally valid” beliefs cannot make aeroplanes in which anyone would want to fly across an ocean. For a reason. Now, in a physics department we expressed mirth at the pronouncements of disciplines which were evidence-based but not experiment-based- where much was made on scant data- “often in error but never in doubt” we scoffed. So I agree with some of what Deloria states, albeit I feel he has thrown out the rationality-and-evidence-based baby out with the too-much-confidence-with-too-little-data bathwater. There are lots of other points that Deloria makes that few readers with which few readers will take issue. To be sure, modern technology has led to the planet being rather messed up, (largely owing to the vast population increases that modern science has enabled) but that does not mean that either the tenets of outputs are modern science can be rejected wholesale. To be sure, European immigrants treated the indigenous populations of the Americas shabbily (and sometimes abominably), but that does not give the notions of Native Americans a free pass through the normal tests of accuracy. In addition Deloria fails to deal adequately with the problem that if we base our ideas on untestable oral traditions we are stuck with the problem that there are a myriad of (contradictory) such traditions. So, what do we do? That Deloria hasn’t grasped this does rather make the reader wonder as to his cognitive competence here. Like Dr Ham, the work of Deloria is also a hostage to scientific fortune. In the 18 years since this book was written, the field of genetics has moved a long way, Deloria’s ideas of Native Americans always having lived in the Americas (as expected) now look wide of the mark, rather undermining Deloria’s position. The book is a fascinating look at different ways of viewing the world which makes a number of good points. But I do not think the reader will be encouraged to move towards a pre-scientific view of the world. I will carry on looking at a weather forecast rather than performing a rain dance. And I rather expect that the author of this book actually did the same Read full review
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