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About me: i'm a 14-15 handicap and recently upgraded from the Titleist 714 AP1's to the 716 AP1's.
Love the Titleist irons!
Up until about 2 years ago, I never even considered Titleist products. In my mind, Titleist products were designed for low handicap players and they didn't fit where my game was at. I played TaylorMade RAC OS2's and were happy with them. Had no idea how much better today's irons were than my 10 year old ones until I played a rental set of Titleist 714 AP1's on vacation a year ago.
Loved the 714 AP1's and bought a set off eBay. After about a year of playing them, I realized that I probably needed stiff shafts vs regulars that I bought. So I tried all the usual suspects that seemed to fit my game:
- Callaway XR and XR pros (thought the Apex might not be forgiving enough so I didn't try those).
- Taylormade RSi 1 and RSi 2 (couldn't get comfortable with the odd look of the M2 irons and never tried them).
- And of course the Titleist 716 AP1's.
I hit my TaylorMade RAC OS2 8 iron to about 150, 7 iron to about 160, 5 iron to about 175. When I upgraded to the 714 AP1's, I hit the 9 iron to about 150, 8 iron to about 160, 7 iron to about 170. I tried all the above clubs and all of them were longer distance wise than the 714's I was playing.
You read and hear a lot these days about these golf guru's complaining that the only reason that these clubs are going longer now is that they've changed the lofts. They make it sound like all the club manufacturers did was take a 6 iron head and put it on a 7 iron shaft (7 iron shaft being shorter than 6 iron). And that's why the clubs go longer. But that's missing a big big part of what has happened with these clubs.
Yes, the manufacturer's have strengthened the lofts, but that's not the whole story. They've moved the weight around in the club and made the faces hotter- these changes increased the ability of clubs to generate ball speed on clean and miss hits. But one of the big impacts of these changes is that the changes increased the launch angle of the clubs. So the net effect becomes, the newer clubs produce a similar apex/ height of ball flight with a lower loft. So you get a 7 iron that flies like an old 7 iron but with the distance (and loft) of a 6 iron. Its pretty amazing.
All these clubs are long. But having hit all of them (mostly on launch monitor except for 716's), here's my conclusion:
- Callaway XR pro- Longest of the bunch. When I hit one clean center face, I got the most distance out of the XR pros. As I said above, I hit my 714 AP1 7 iron to about 170. A clean center face shot on the XR pros produced shots traveling out to about 190 yards on a 7 iron! The feel was great on center face shots. Distance was compelling, but felt like in comparison to the 716's, the Apex were OK on center face hits, but really lagged in feel on off center hits. Hard to really compare distance on miss hits as each one is a little different, but my feeling was that the 716's were more forgiving on miss hits.
- TaylorMade RSi 1's- Very long and particularly long on miss hits (maybe due to the face slots), but too much offset on the irons produced too much draw/ hook for me. I'm a 15 handicap, but my miss tends to be a pull or a draw that's overcooked. Playing 5 yards of draw and end up with 20. Offset in clubs is a problem for me. Most clubs in the game improvement category put some offset in the clubs, but the RSI's had just a little too much for me. But the face is hot and probably overall the longest clubs if you look at center face and mishit distance. I hit the 7 iron to about 180 to even more when center face with the RSi's. And didn't give up that much on mishits.
- Titleist 716's AP1's- Best feel of the bunch. Just couldn't beat the way these irons feel when you flush them (and even mishits feel great). I did a ton of internet research and thought I'd probably end up with the XR's or RSi's based on all the measurables/ launch monitor stats published out there. But once I hit the clubs, it became really obvious to me that the Titleist were the right choice for me. Distance is still great- I hit my 7 iron about 170-175 (and on flushed shots, I did have a couple out at 185-190 on the launch monitor). So definitely longer than my 714's and right up there with the Callaway's and TM's. But the feel was really the difference!
Overall, I think what you get with Titleist 716's is a more traditional looking product that focuses on:
- High performance in a more classic look
- High quality that lasts
- A more enduring product vs a new version every year or in the case of TaylorMade sometimes 2 new versions in a year. And better long term value as a result.
- A real focus on feel and playability. Maybe not the most impressive stats on the launch monitor, but for me, I think these help my game more than the other choices out there.
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