well the tool it self are mabt good for beginners
But 1 9 themterial they are made of isto soft and weak .And the gab where its pressed together shut
have been closed cos it easy grab some braid they not surposted to but they work but often need to restart coz eighter they are to big ore to small .Last time i buyed them i wassent as trained as no and the old needlles terrible coz i used tools get forse them troug the robe
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